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Hello Need a Little Help
« on: 06:22:36 | 15 December, 2016 »
Hello,

It's Chris Here thanks for the membership and I hope you can help me. I had a Logik IR100 , which someone helped themselves to from my shed.So looking to replace it , I've seen the same on ebay for the price I paid many years ago from Dixons (£49) not wanting to pay the same or more for a secondhand one.I started to look on the web for one and came across the MEDION® E85038 (MD 87238) it looks about the same. My question is is it as good as my old one?

Kind Regards
Chris

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Re: Hello Need a Little Help
« Reply #1 on: 01:10:33 | 16 December, 2016 »
I've never seen or heard one of those Medions so cannot comment on how it compares to your departed IR100.  The manual is available from the medion web site and from that I am 99% sure the Medion is not a Reciva based radio.  My experience of other  Medion products (bought from Aldi) is that they are of reasonable quality and value for money.

I have for sale a small number of very good condition refurbished Marks and Spencer Internet Radios. Photos of the similar Vistron branded version including one side by side with an IR100 at http://logikir100.tripod.com/Vistron.htm.  Mine are black case.  If you want to know more, contact me using the Private Message facility on this board.

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Re: Hello Need a Little Help
« Reply #2 on: 02:13:28 | 16 December, 2016 »
Thank you Drgeoff for your reply.

I had a look at the radio you have for sale, it seems the sound it not up tp that of the Logik IR 100.

Is there a list of available Reciva based radio ,as I did not know that not all internet radio did not use this system.


Chris

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Re: Hello Need a Little Help
« Reply #3 on: 02:27:38 | 16 December, 2016 »
That Medion model gets quite good reviews on German ebay.
https://www.amazon.de/MEDION-E85038-Wireless-Internet-Radio-schwarz/dp/B00X9XT1KA
English handbook starts on page 136
http://download2.medion.com/downloads/anleitungen/bda_md87238_de_en_fr_nl.pdf
Am not sure if it runs on the Frontier-Silicon platform but definitely not Reciva as far as I can tell.
In the manual it is stated
"When connected to the internet, the radio is logged into a service providing Internet radio stations. It enables you to receive more than 13,000 radio stations from around the world. You can save up to 500 stations in a favourites list."
so it would seem that neither Reciva nor FS are involved here(?).
« Last Edit: 02:41:09 | 16 December, 2016 by Keenite »

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Re: Hello Need a Little Help
« Reply #4 on: 03:59:24 | 16 December, 2016 »
That Medion model is indeed a Froniter-Silicon-based radio, and appears to use their Venice 6.5 module. (This does not mean that all other Medion radios are Frontier-based, but none are Reciva-based.)

The website portal that the manual mentions is a branded version of vtuner's standard website; you cannot log in there using an existing Frontier Silicon wififrontier account; you have to create a new account specifically for Medion radios.

The "Lifestream II" app is a branded version of Frontier's UNDOK app; it does find and control other Frontier radios (like my Roberts 93i), so presumably, UNDOK will do the same for this Medion radio.

If Medion are selling this radio in the UK, I would hope and expect that is either already has the BBC DASH friendly firmware or will get it in an upgrade (as some radios of some other brands already have). Only then will it play most BBC podcasts, and the live BBC streams when the BBC switch off their MP3 streams. (Look in the menu for "Info", there you get the "SW version" (starts with "ir-mmi-FS2026-0500") - this needs to contain "V2.10" or higher.) Reciva radios will, as far as anyone knows, not get a DASH-capable upgrade.
« Last Edit: 04:04:19 | 16 December, 2016 by Dogmatix »
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Re: Hello Need a Little Help
« Reply #5 on: 09:34:49 | 16 December, 2016 »
Hi guys,

If I understand you right Reciva based radio will not receive BBC radio soon?

Chris
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Re: Hello Need a Little Help
« Reply #6 on: 11:17:48 | 16 December, 2016 »
Indeed so. I was told by a Reciva person at the Berlin Funkausstellung in September 2015 that existing Reciva radios could not be firmware-updated to play the BBC's new DASH streams, as the processor on the Reciva Stingray and Barracuda modules are not powerful enough.

The BBC live radio DASH streams are already up and running and being used by DASH-capable radios. The Shoutcast MP3 streams were introduced as a stop-gap measure, to be discontinued when the internet radio makers had adapted to the DASH format. Just when the switch-off will happen, we don't know. Maybe Reciva (now owned by Qualcomm) has prevailed upon the BBC for a stay of execution. Frontier Silicon have adapted so; an upgrade for radios with their Venice 6.5 module is available and some brands (eg. Roberts, Revo, Hama) have already implemented it for some existing and new radios.
« Last Edit: 09:04:06 | 19 December, 2016 by Dogmatix »
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Re: Hello Need a Little Help
« Reply #7 on: 08:21:26 | 19 December, 2016 »
Ok, what should I be looking for as I look at replacements and recommendation would be good, something with a nice sound but not to expensive.

Chris

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Re: Hello Need a Little Help
« Reply #8 on: 11:09:15 | 19 December, 2016 »
I personally would recommend the Roberts stream 93i. It has the added bonus of also having DAB, DAB+ and FM. OK it is not particularly cheap but it is a good receiver with good quality sound. I got mine (new) from Co_op Electrical for £137
IR100's....OXX Digital...IRMA1...BT internet radio....Freecom Musicpal(v.tuner)...tranciva (frontier silicon)... Acoustic Solutions Net008..Roberts stream 83i... No reason at all why I need so many...and now a Pure One Flow so I again can listen to BBC Listen Again.Also have Zettaly Avy

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Re: Hello Need a Little Help
« Reply #9 on: 12:41:04 | 19 December, 2016 »
Have you considered using a tablet in conjuction with a Bluetooth device? I too prefer a stand-alone radio set-up, but also use an inexpensive Amazon tablet connected wirelessly to a good sound bar (existing stereo system also possible via Bluetooth tranceiver). Main problem is the physical positioning of the tablet, there are lots of stands and holders such as this one:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Black-Lazy-Rotating-360-Bed-Tablet-Desktop-Mount-Stand-Holder-for-Ipad-Air-Note-/152335351271?hash=item2377e4fde7:g:TNMAAOSwHMJYPAjd
Also, if you use it in bed you can simply connect headphones directly to the tablet. It is also true that the touch-screen aspect of a tablet is not everyone's cup of tea.
I assume that technically the various players integrated in the usual internet browers would be updated such that the BBC would always work, but don't know enough about this to be sure.
The 7-inch Amazon HD Fire goes for as little as 40 pounds.
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Re: Hello Need a Little Help
« Reply #10 on: 13:50:08 | 19 December, 2016 »
I personally would recommend the Roberts Stream 93i.

So would I. Available in black or white: https://www.robertsradio.com/uk/products/radio/smart-radio/stream-93i

Alternatively, and a bit smaller, and a tad cheaper, but with no remote control (apart from the app) there's the Revo Pixis RX: http://revo.co.uk/shop/pixis-rs/ (note: the Pixis RX, not the Pixis RS!).
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Re: Hello Need a Little Help
« Reply #11 on: 13:58:02 | 19 December, 2016 »
This has its fans.  It's basically two speakers and and android tablet.  It's a bit quirky but it serves its purpose surprisingly well.  https://www.amazon.co.uk/Zettaly-Portable-Bluetooth-Speaker-Internet/dp/B00WR3W2TA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1482184551&sr=8-1&keywords=zetally+avy
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