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A question about the Mondo and Mondo+
« on: 04:38:04 | 15 May, 2019 »
Hello everyone. I'm interested in replacing my Frontier Silicon based Sangean WRF-28 with a Mondo or Mondo+ radio. The FS-Sangean portal used to have the ability to search for podcasts and store them in a favorite folder that when selected on the radio would show all available episodes. I haven't been able to convince myself that the same function is available with the Grace portal and the “My Stuff” item on the Grace radios. Can someone familiar with these Grace models fill me in on whether it's pretty much the same as it was on the Sangean.

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Re: A question about the Mondo and Mondo+
« Reply #1 on: 05:47:04 | 15 May, 2019 »
Yes, the Grace Plus radios have the ability to search for and store podcasts at https://myradiosplus.gracedigital.com/admin/searches#podcast  Podcasts are stored in a "my podcasts" folder which are then playable on the radios.  One benefit of the Grace Plus radios is that they have the ability to play podcasts that are only available in the encrypted https format.
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Re: A question about the Mondo and Mondo+
« Reply #2 on: 09:00:50 | 15 May, 2019 »
Thanks. I decided to try to make an account and there was no problem. I had thought I might need a serial number to do so, but found it wasn't necessary. I see that I can add multiple radios to the account. I did a search for the BBC World tonight podcast and found it without issue. Since I have no radios on the account there was no distinction between the Mondo and Mondo+ versions. Am I right to assume that this and probably all the BBC podcasts wouldn't have an issue with the older Mondo radio? Can you advise on what I should understand about the https format. I don't believe I ever ran into that issue with the Sangean radio.

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Re: A question about the Mondo and Mondo+
« Reply #3 on: 09:26:22 | 15 May, 2019 »
BBC podcasts are integrated into the old Mondo.  There's a menu item on it for BBC podcasts and they all still work (I just checked).  A lot of podcasts have switched from the http format to https and these are not playable on the old Mondo (nor on most other internet radios) but they do play successfully on the newer Grace Plus radios.  The Grace Plus radios' podcast database is Apple podcasts, which I believe is the most comprehensive.

I'd be a little leery of the older Grace radios after the Frontier-Silicon/vTuner fiasco.  If Reciva goes the way of vTuner, the older Grace radios wouldn't work as they do now.
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Re: A question about the Mondo and Mondo+
« Reply #4 on: 10:57:38 | 15 May, 2019 »
Wow, I had assumed the aggregator was the same for all Grace radios. That it depends on the model is super important to know.

Out of curiosity, all the BBC podcasts worked on the Sangean, but there was a blackout period in June of 2018 that I contacted BBC support about and they eventually replied:

"We're aware of a few user reports recently stating that podcasts were failing to download. We believe that most of these reports were from listeners outside the UK and affected services such as iTunes and other Third Party podcast receivers. This was investigated by our BBC Online teams and pleased to confirm that a fix was released yesterday (Tuesday 26 June). You should now be able to download podcasts again from outside of the UK."

Might this have been related to the https change?

Anyway, if I do pull the trigger on a Grace, it will be a plus model. Thanks for your help.

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Re: A question about the Mondo and Mondo+
« Reply #5 on: 11:55:10 | 15 May, 2019 »
I don't know what happened to BBC podcasts at that time.  Others here are much more knowledgeable about the BBC.  I do know that NPR podcasts switched to https a few years ago and gradually podcasts became unavailable to a lot of people who listened to podcasts on internet radio.  https://digitalservices.npr.org/post/secure-url-transition-streams-podcasts 

The older Grace radios used Reciva as a stream aggregator.  Reciva is now owned by Qualcomm and Qualcomm may eventually realize that they are supporting a lot of old radios without getting any financial compensation for doing so.  Whether or how Grace and the other Reciva brands will support the old radios at that point is unclear.  Grace owns the API for the steam aggregator it uses for its newer, Plus radios.  According to Grace's CEO, the vTuner/Frontier-Silicon snafu won't occur with the Plus radios:

"Grace Digital manages their own database for all of their new ‘plus’ internet radios (Mondo plus, Encore plus and more to come) so no worries about a 3rd party terminating the relationship and wiping away one’s favorites etc…

We started managing our own database when Reciva got bought by CSR then CSR got bought by Qualcomm. Our legacy radios still use Qualcomm’s database but we manage our new database, web site to save your favorites and add your own URL’s as well.

Greg
Grace Digital CEO"
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Re: A question about the Mondo and Mondo+
« Reply #6 on: 16:22:18 | 15 May, 2019 »
Thank you. That is very helpful information. I do recall losing NPR podcasts for an extended time in the past and was surprised they were working again when I happened upon them quite a long time later.

It's very encouraging to read Grace's CEO statement. I'll probably give in and get a plus when I lose hope that FS will get the favorites working again.

The situation with Reciva clarifies many comments I've read in the past. Some seemed to imply they were out of business, but obviously I could never confirm that. Now I understand why.

Thanks again.

 

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