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Hardware & Firmware => Silicon Frontier Radio Devices => Topic started by: diddy on 03:01:13 | 02 June, 2021

Title: bbc radio internet stations
Post by: diddy on 03:01:13 | 02 June, 2021
 i've noticed that suddenly the bbc internet radio stations on my ruark audio r2mk3 & roberts 93i are all showing a bit rate of only 96kbps.my squeezebox touch shows them all at 320kbps. my reason for buying both the ruark & roberts was the fact that they were able to play the high quality 320kbps mpeg dash streams across all stations.

i have contacted the bbc who claim that only radio 3 is broadcast at 320kbps with all other stations using.they say, 128kbps.

in view of the fact that it's the ruark & roberts that are only playing the lower quality 96kbps streams an issue with the silicon frontier module in them?

diddy
Title: Re: bbc radio internet stations
Post by: Alan E Hill on 03:48:24 | 02 June, 2021
I listen in the US. Although it's been a while since I used a direct BBC feed, I believe they've only been available at 96kbps for some time.
Title: Re: bbc radio internet stations
Post by: zeewier on 06:20:03 | 02 June, 2021
FWIW: Here in the UK my Grace Digital Mondo Elite which is designed for the US market plays BBC Radio 3 at 128 kbps MP3. The European Avox Indio TMA-1 (Reciva based) offers two different streams: 320kbps AAC and 128 MP3. There is no sign of a 96kbps stream on either radio.
Title: Re: bbc radio internet stations
Post by: Dogmatix on 06:21:35 | 02 June, 2021
The BBC Radio 3 320kbps stream is only available within the UK. Outside the UK, you only get 96kbps. Radios 2, 4 and 5 are also 96kbps outside the UK.

There are other stations streaming at 320kbps, for example, Linn Jazz, Linn Radio and Linn Classical. '98.7 WFMT' (Chicago) is at 256.
Title: Re: bbc radio internet stations
Post by: Solo2 on 06:37:33 | 02 June, 2021
FWIW: Here in the UK my Grace Digital Mondo Elite which is designed for the US market plays BBC Radio 3 at 128 kbps MP3.

In the UK, can you play the 320kbps HLS stream for BBC 3 on the Grace Mondo Elite radio by adding to my streams http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/sbr_high/ak/bbc_radio_three.m3u8  ?
Title: Re: bbc radio internet stations
Post by: diddy on 07:14:11 | 02 June, 2021
many thanks for all the prompt replies. i'm in the uk but even the radio 3 stream is only showing 96kbps. on the basis that all the streams outside the uk are only 96kbps it would seem these are the streams that for some reason my 2 radios are using but why  the sudden change i can't imagine.
Title: Re: bbc radio internet stations
Post by: Natural Sound on 09:10:03 | 02 June, 2021
many thanks for all the prompt replies. i'm in the uk but even the radio 3 stream is only showing 96kbps. on the basis that all the streams outside the uk are only 96kbps it would seem these are the streams that for some reason my 2 radios are using but why  the sudden change i can't imagine.

Has your internet quality degraded? Some streaming services automatically detect your optimal streaming speed. I'm not saying this is your problem. Just offering a possible explanation.
Title: Re: bbc radio internet stations
Post by: diddy on 10:35:19 | 02 June, 2021
I may have an answer to the problem. I emailed both Ruark audio & roberts radio with the problem. Robert’s replied quite quickly saying they are aware of the fact that their radios are suddenly streaming the non uk streams and the problem is their end. As my Ruark is doing the same thing and has the same frontier silicone module as the Robert’s thereby lies the problem. As far as I know neither set has had any software updates I can’t understand why this should happen.
Title: Re: bbc radio internet stations
Post by: diddy on 07:26:29 | 05 June, 2021
well it's good news and bad news,both my ruark audio & roberts internet radios are now streaming bbc radio 3 @ 320kbps BUT all other bbc national & local stations are still using the non uk 96kbps streams.prior to this they were all streaming at the higher 320kbps bit rate.the other bbc national & local stations are showing,on my laptop,as streaming at the higher rate of  320kbps. i have emailed both ruark & roberts to ask if this,obvoiusly,needs a second look.

i will post with any replies that i receive

Title: Re: bbc radio internet stations
Post by: diddy on 03:52:32 | 07 June, 2021
pleased to report that all bbc stations here in the uk are now showing streaming at 320kbps